Rest assured that the photo is the same person and I've removed his face as the investigation may still be ongoing. The person above is a strong runner, always podium winner in local races. Known famous runner. Strong and young. He took part in 21km or Half Marathon in PBIM...But in the lower photo, running on Penang Bridge, he was caught on camera with a Men Veteran FULL MARATHON Bib...and he finished his race with his legit 21km bib. I am not sure of his timing, but it should be between 1:07:16 to 1:07:47...(between 3rd placing and 5th placing). I was told that this man's PB for 21km is usually 1:1X...so a 1:07 gave him a SUPER PB improvement of at least 3 minutes....and those running at those speed will know how difficult to improve even just 1 seconds.
So, meaning, he had a head start WITH the FM folks at 2am...as the HM starts at 3:15am...a 1:15 hours differences.
Ready for more?
Now, spot the similarity
The man at the photo below is also a very famous veteran runner. Known runner among locals. Super strong for his age. Sponsored runner of New Balance. Spot the SAME number, but different color bib? The man finished the FM in 3:00.
How did they pull it off?
Interesting isn't it? Here we got photo evidences of two very strong Malaysian runners pulling off perhaps one of the most well planned cheat in the running scene.
Here is my opinion on how they managed to pull it off...
1. FM starts 2am. A first ran
with B's Veteran Bib (suspected to be fake, that is why color is NOT green).
2. HM starts 3:15. for their
level, 1:15 more than enough to cover 21km. This meant A can run slower than
usual and still come up first Malaysia for 21km. He cross the line champion
Malaysia for 21km. In fact, he scored a 1:07:XX, coming in between Kenyans.
Nicely done.
3. B then take over and run
remaining 20++km pai-kau-kau lat and finish in Sub 3hours because A already
cover 21km for him...next time marker is at Km25(?) B can re-start at KM25 and
everything is still believable.
4. B finish FM Veteran in good
timing...and I was told the intention for this was for Boston
qualifying...and a 3:15 for his age group is suffice ;-)
They were both
disqualified by the PBIM organiser and I was told (second hand info)
that they are now banned from entering races under (this) PBIM organiser.
I've lost all respect for this
two very strong Malaysian runners that has inspired many runners. Their past
races and records is now hanging in the balance. COuld they had done the same?
Because stunts like these could not be planned and pulled off just once without
more detailed planning and understanding the race route.
Having said that, some of you
may not know that the recent Powerman Malaysia RELAY category winner were
disqualified as well...why? lets just say if the timing were true (that leads the
relay team to winning the race), we could had a world class 5000m runner that
could give the world record holder a run for their medal...like literally. Good
that the organiser knew about it and taken the steps to disqualified them - but
damage were done as the Men Relay Team has stepped onto the podium and obtained
their moment of glory.
If you are planning to race and
know you are a very strong runner or in contention to win something, do it
right and do it honestly. If you lose, make sure you walk away with your head
held high, and not being exposed and shamed in social media and being banned by
organisers to ever take part anymore.
Remember the Sportsman Prayer?
O God please help me to win for i always want to win,
But if in thy inscrutable wisdom thou willest me not to win,
Then make me a good loser.
For when the one great scorer comes to write against your name,
He writes,
Not that you won or lost,
But how you played the game.
But if in thy inscrutable wisdom thou willest me not to win,
Then make me a good loser.
For when the one great scorer comes to write against your name,
He writes,
Not that you won or lost,
But how you played the game.
And you cheaters in sports...you will forever be remembered on how you played your game.
Update December 7, 2013
The news has made it into Sin Chew and now, they are both shamed on national media. I say, well deserved (and about time!)
Update December 7, 2013
The news has made it into Sin Chew and now, they are both shamed on national media. I say, well deserved (and about time!)
Read it full here : http://news.sinchew.com.my/node/337330?tid=1 |
and they taught no one will know
ReplyDeleteThought
ReplyDeleteUnfortunately the results page at http://www.penangmarathon.gov.my/pbimsystem/ppanel_check.php?event=TkF3RT1CPTI= wont allow you to look up their names :(
ReplyDeletePowerman Relay Results can check though;
ReplyDeletehttp://www.powerman.com.my/v14/results/2013/Pman13_Prelim_Results_25nov.htm
NICE ;-)
DeleteIf B's bib was fake, this doesn't help anything for B because there will not be any timing for B to qualify for the Boston. I still don't understand how they pull it off.
ReplyDeleteIf they can replicate a bib that looked similiar, what makes us think they won't be able to find ways to replicate the timing chip?
DeleteBut FM and HM route are not the same, the only time I saw FM runner is only when we were on the penang bridge and some distant after the bridge. Even so their check-in point is way ahead of HM on the bridge isn't it?
ReplyDeleteif want to get a legal timing. all the FM runner must pass starting line at 2am, and the HM runner must pass starting line at 3.15am? how to explain ah? if HM runner cross starting line @ 2am, thats mean his timing direct get disqualified right?
DeletePassing the starting line is not a tough thing to do, you can run pass it, change, take motor, stop near timing point, run pass it, take motor again, run pass it...repeat...
Deletenot understand..
ReplyDeleteReal Cheat!
ReplyDeleteBetter than the Singapore guy at SCSM.
Malaysia Boleh!
You see, that is why we all not smart enough to cheat, because we all can't figure out how they did it...but they did it!
ReplyDeleteJust wonder how many more cheaters out there who are still survive...
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ReplyDeleteIf the live tracker is still available, we can check their result, split time and name by just key in the Bib number. Unfortunately, the tracker is not longer available after the official result was announced.
ReplyDelete"They were both disqualified by the PBIM organiser and I was told (second hand info) that they are now banned from entering races under (this) PBIM organiser."
ReplyDelete... so just show their faces as we want to see these so called malaysian elite runner, thank you.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151736889862400&set=a.10151736889462400.1073741843.82387457399&type=3&theater
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Tqvm! For the link of faces! Excellent!
Deletehttps://www.dropbox.com/s/2js2bjc9gcc96lb/IMG_3482.JPG
ReplyDeleteTerbaik..qualified for boston marathon?
Deletehttps://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151784204375382&set=a.10150932737800382.415526.591515381&type=1&theater
ReplyDeleteHi tech cheats. Even this is getting complex huh!
ReplyDeletePlease be informed that all information and pictures published in this case regarding runners involved are FALSE and not TRUE. We has investigated and has dissolved this issue. Therefore, we advise the blog owner to remove all pictures and information immediately. Failing to do so, we will not hesitate to take legal action against the blog owner.
ReplyDeleteBy PBIM Organiser.
if you're going to pretend to be an official speaking on behalf of PBIM, at least try to use proper grammar. suspicious this and the following comment were posted one after another.
Deleteyes, the grammar mistakes
DeleteBro, what all this you published a false news!! How can you published such wrong info???
ReplyDeleteI have news as well...I took part in the PutraJaya Night Marathon 2013. I was told that this runner who ran the Half Marathon Veteran category with someone else bib number and finished 1st yet escape without any problem. This runner is currently the top Malaysian Jr. veteran runner from Penang. How could all this happen??? what is the organiser is doing??? Top runner doing this???
ReplyDeletenot all top runner do like this ok..
DeleteAfter reading the statement from the organiser, i think those both runners should take legal action against this tristupe.com owner. If i were them i will make him pay for the damage.
ReplyDeleteYes i do agreed that a 3rd party publishing such image and information are not right. I strongly suggest that those runners to make a police report and take legal action, charge this blog owner in the court and make him pay for the damages. At the same time i would like to advise Tey Eng Tiong to take care of himself and his family other than being busy body on other people's life.
ReplyDeleteI strongly support you...those 2 runner's out there, lodge a police report and charge whoever published this rubbish information. Don't waste anymore time. Get a lawyer charge him in the court. Don't forget to charge Sin Chew as well before that check with PBIM first who published in the newspaper. If it's not PBIM, find out who did and charge all of them.
Deletefamous. cheating.
Deleteme and my few friends.. ran the full and half marathon until both legs almost broken. to learn that this cheating from veteran runners. we feel disappointed to the max. seriously.
Hello anonymous, please explain on details how this was not a cheat.
ReplyDeleteWahhh.. threaten the blog owner some more. If didnt cheat just prove it lo or go ahead make whatever report so that an official investigation of the cheat can be made know. There's no need to be a coward and make agressive statements..
ReplyDeleteWho are the Powerman cheats?? Has the results been updated?
ReplyDeleteTo the cheaters, prove otherwise with facts/proof and not threats..... because you weren't able to, we already know you're the cheaters. Hence, waste of time unless otherwise proven so. Period.
ReplyDeleteCaught with pants down (aka two different bib) and still think all is ok.
ReplyDeleteI guess there is no more dignity or integrity anymore.
If the case wasn't a cheat, why did PBIM organiser disqualify the two, even with "legit" timing? There must be some reason or two, perhaps three reasons?
Take care bro, my conscience is clear.
Interesting reading although i'm still amazed they could pull it off and indeed would go to such trouble. Is there monetary gain to be had from getting a place at Boston?
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