Over the years of being involved in sports and races, I always have the impression that many does it to challenge themselves. My first encounter with the cheating competitor happened about 7 or 8 years back when a senior veteran racer was caught cheating by cycling one loop less by race official. Apparently, it wasn't the first time he did it and subsequently, he disappear from the racing scene after being banned and/or out of embarrassment.
Then we have a lady that really did made herself known among the racing community by doing the same thing in most races she enters - with the most recent one in Batu Caves Tanggathon. Other racers lodged complains but the organiser did nothing. She is a podium winner most of the time.
Then, yesterday morning, I received an email from a fellow runner on his observation of one individual that (I would like to add : ALLEGEDLY) cheat organisers and runners. His antic were apparently known among his friends and he has openly claimed it in his own Facebook timeline.
Below is the fellow runner, that made the observation email to me (and maybe to a few others as well). I have removed the name of the person, his race number and even the color of racing shirt he was wearing and will not show any photos. I wish I could present it as how i received the email, but i would like to provide some benefit of doubt.
I have gotten advices from a fellow friend that are practicing lawyer and he had warned me about possible litigation if this is proven untrue. Again, let me put on record, and as you can read it here, unless the person stated in this email "feel the heat", there is absolutely no reason for him to react if he did not cheat.
In fact, I am and will publish (if he wish) his reasoning if he choose to contact me.
I have gotten advices from a fellow friend that are practicing lawyer and he had warned me about possible litigation if this is proven untrue. Again, let me put on record, and as you can read it here, unless the person stated in this email "feel the heat", there is absolutely no reason for him to react if he did not cheat.
In fact, I am and will publish (if he wish) his reasoning if he choose to contact me.
Start of Email:
I’ve been thinking of highlighting this issues since last year , but am just not sure who is the right person to write to.
There’s
a really unhealthy scenarios that’s been going on in the Running Scene at the
moment that never thought / even crossed my mind that a Reasonable Man
have the pride to do this. I WAS TOLD BY A FRIEND , and after close
monitoring , I witnessed it by
myself .
It’s
a very simple case :
People
are cheating the organizers and took the advantage and making profit out of
it and even can announce it in FB ( TO HIS
CIRCLE OF FRIENDS )
This
is how it goes .
Name
:
1. Name
: XXX XXX
Facebook
Name : YYY YYY ( I’m sure you knew this guy ) NOT a good runner , especially
in Long Distance , as he can’t
even run for a 8KM . Manage to do only the Sprint
Category in Powerman . Not a thriathlete too..
2. Modus
Operandi :-
Tactic
1 :
He
registered for the Lowest Distance ( like
I said he can’t even run 21KM) so most
of the time opt for 10KM Race
Ex
: SCKLM 2012 :
Registered for 10KM Run ,
received original Bib Number for 10KM Distance – so he will start with the 10KM
Runners , ( usually he will hide his bib under his shirt ) no issue huh ? wait
. MOST OF HIS PICTURES , you hardly can’ t see
his bib !
But
, before the finishing line when the Runners merged , he will change
the Bib to a FM Bib – SAME Color WITH OTHERS FM RUNNERS ,
but believe it or not , theNumber either doesn’t exist or it’s his fren’s
number ..
How
he get the FM Bib ? he SCANNED it !!!!! Trust me , all his
friend knew his work and he can sell fake Bibs to others too.. No wonder
at times we faced not enough water etc.. if we have Fake Runners in the Run.
**Look at SCKLM12 Pic – the one regs K1-1XXX8 ( 10KM Run )
– wears it clearly. Then at the fInishing line ( in XXX tshirt – CHANGE TO
A1XX6 ( FM Bib ) – Hide it under the Tshirt
**PBIM 12 – A03XX – looks at his BIB – hide under the shirt & compared with the original bib from the guy next to him ? this is 100m to
the finishing line.
Why
he did it ?
Because
:
Wanted not only the Medal , but the
Goody Bags & most important THE FINISHER TEE …so that he
can sell the Tee’s at the office & also to all his fren’s who never did a
FM , but wants to wear a FM Finisher Tee shirt . ( there are people who has no
PRIDE in buying this )
Tactic 2.
Not
only cheated the Organizer by fake BIB , he will have the bib insert in Plastic
, so that he can collect the goody bags ( or the wife will go for the second
round ) as when we tick the Bib for the first time , we tick on the Plastic ,
so he can go again and again and collect the goody bags. Checkout his pic – all
his bib will be in Plastics
I
attached herewith a few pics , he ran with a FM Bib , I
caught him twice , SCKLM12 and PBIM 12 – you can check the name on the
bib ..
He
also used shortcut during Multi Purpose Ran , MILO Run (
even for 8KM ) and other runs.. For both run he collected goody bags more
than one. It’s even uploaded in his FB .
The
Latest “ Also he Ran 7km in the latest Mizuno , half way wore the bib after
both distance runner merge before the Finishing line – so he finished as
a 16KM Runners. Pictures attached .
I
just feel that’s its not fair , others have all their pain to cross the
finishing line , whereas they are people using FAKE BIB in the
run and went back with a FM Finisher Tee.
End Of Email
While there are a few moments of conspiracy theory in the email, it could be differences in opinion between the writer and the alledged cheater. I try to be as objective as possible. Looking at the photos, it did look legit and the writer did shown that he has taken the effort to check and observe before emailing me. One of the most damning evidence was how the alledged cheater wore a 10km race bib at the start and finished with a Full Marathon race bib at the end. This is in the same race mind you and was photographed by the usual event volunteer photographer.
For my own curiousity and to help myself verify what I read, I did a bit of checking myself. I ran his name on the SCKLM 2012 results page and the recent Mizuno 2013 run - I could not locate his name in any category, including the allegedly registered 10K race for SCKLM 2012, meaning, if he indeed did register, he definitely did not finish the race, but why? I would very much hope and wish my name/bib/race record at 10, 21, 30 and 42km are well documented. For him, there is no record, and why the extra effort on TWO numbers?
The other races would require me to enter his IC number, which I do not have, and can't verify the status. So, do practice some level of objectivity when you read the above email sent to me.
I went to the Facebook page but because we are not connected, I only see limited photos and could not verify some of the claims above; or are they removed since the allegation against him has came to his knowledge?
The other races would require me to enter his IC number, which I do not have, and can't verify the status. So, do practice some level of objectivity when you read the above email sent to me.
I went to the Facebook page but because we are not connected, I only see limited photos and could not verify some of the claims above; or are they removed since the allegation against him has came to his knowledge?
Suffice to say I WILL lose my respect for this person cheating if the allegations are true. He looked like a nice guy and perhaps even a motivator/inspirer based on the races he enters and his size that will make people to respect him.
Perhaps, luckily, I actually do not know him other than seeing him before with some acquaintances (which by the way, belong to a local group). This person ( that allegedly cheats) share 62 "mutual friends" with me. I wonder if these mutual friends are aware of this happening.
Maybe they do, and they see no harm in doing this. (?)
Same reason I am against "bib trading". By selling and buying bibs not registered under your name will cause many issues and this is also considered as cheating. Perhaps this chap was running with a "legit" bib that belongs to a friend. I could not prove if this person "scanned and trade" bibs, but the writer did mentioned it was blatantly displayed and known amongst his friends (in Facebook)
Again, if this allegation is true, then it is really sad to see non-podium winner, everday Joe, cheat and the whole idea is to collect the t-shirts and goody bags, and even sell those t-shirts to those that are interested (or want to claim to had run a 42km race). Why?
Remember, the (legit) participants registered and paid up are subsidizing these cheaters' while the organisers are suffering some losses due to this practice.
So, where do you, as an individual, stand in this?
And, do you know him? Maybe some of you do.
Having said that, if the alledgation is indeed true, and whoever reads it saw it fits into the person, or the person himself know this is about him - doesn't it show a certain degree of...truth?
Have a good day. Mine is pretty "blah" knowing about this today.
Remember, the (legit) participants registered and paid up are subsidizing these cheaters' while the organisers are suffering some losses due to this practice.
So, where do you, as an individual, stand in this?
And, do you know him? Maybe some of you do.
Having said that, if the alledgation is indeed true, and whoever reads it saw it fits into the person, or the person himself know this is about him - doesn't it show a certain degree of...truth?
Have a good day. Mine is pretty "blah" knowing about this today.
Who is this bugger? Do I know him?
ReplyDeleteKam - u might know him. Maybe.
DeleteDamn...mcm ni pun ada? Wa lari setengah mampus :P
DeleteI feel your pain. I was getting quite active in the mountain bike and adventure racing scene in Singapore and Malaysia until I just got sick of the rampant cheating and complete lack of officiating. We have caught plenty of cheats and reported them and every time we report them the officials review and ignore it. It happens in every single race I have ever been in in Singapore and Malaysia and its a disgrace. If it was just for sad losers that want a finisher's tee when they can't even do the full distance then I really dont care. They are just tools and noone really cares if they have a t-shirt or not. But when people are constantly stealing podium positions and prize money then that's where it gets annoying. I have been in a team where we were twice cheated out of podium positions and once had one team try to cheat us out of first place. This was the only time our appeal won because it happened so close to the finish that everyone saw it. We got first place but the cheats still got second. Where I come from they would have been dq'd but here they get rewarded for it. Now I just ride for myself and with my friends and I select the events I compete in based solely on the organisers.
ReplyDeleteSRE - thanks for sharing. I guess intergrity is not in their vocab. We as legit racers will know better what it takes to be there. I pity these cheaters that get a kick out of cheating.
DeleteI hope they don't approach life outside of races the same way too.
what a douche bag
ReplyDeleteAnd that sir, is you being kind? :D
DeleteI klnow what you meant.
i felt so down reading this as one of them used to sound me at PBIM..kenapa slow sangat? jeezz..get a life..then like u said, he ran 21 km but cheats, so total distance is god knows what..its not just in pbim, happened in scklm 2012, pnm 2012..makes me gutted because i trained so hard to do a FM :(
ReplyDeleterazinah
Razinah - i suggest you cut ties with people like this. Seems you know him and more the reason to be proud that your effort is all yourself and you ran the whole distance.
DeleteDon't ever let other bring you down, more so the cheaters.
thanks 4 ur info...its really sad especially to those who are beginners in this running field..the one who spend much of their time in training and suffering for the sports their love...im a beginners and this is my first time in HM for SCKLM and knowing by this, will make some of the beginners dissapointed...'kalo tak boleh lari jalan saja lo'...its more respectful then cheating...
ReplyDeleteStick to what you believe. Walk it if you can't run it. Crawl it if you can't walk it. Finish it with pride and dignity. Then improve from there.
DeleteDO not be disheartened, we move on from here.
state his name for the record. least we all will know for now only a few
ReplyDeleteGokul - I will let this be. Let this be a message to others that has been cheating to buck up.
DeleteHi Tristupe... when i read yr title, i tough it's about drug, but when i read all the email from yr friend, it's damnnnnnnnnn weird/funny/sad etc.... why he's doing that & WHO??
ReplyDelete-Zis the runners-
Don't get me started on drugs. I know (and i ope they have stopped) a group that takes steroids meant for bodybuilder to boost their performance/training.
DeleteMore worrying is that they share it openly in FB.
LOL, if he put as much energy into actually running as he put into the "ruse" of deception he woukld be an Olympic medalist.
ReplyDeleteCan you imagine how much thought and planning goes into this OMG!
Exactly my point, if ONLY. It is perhaps to get back his "investment". Only way is to take more t-shirts, scan more bibs, sell more bibs to get back the money he put in.
Deleteand it is more worrying that I can actually think like him.
Why hide, expose him ..
ReplyDeleteNo point to expose, as he will not change his way. He is apparently already known among his peers/team...
DeleteDamn! Truly agreed with you all. It's not a matter of winning or losing. If you wanna win, do it with your own strength. At least you can proudly say with pride when you won.
ReplyDeleteHave self worth and dignity. :)
DeleteWhoever he/she is, they are making lance armstrong as their idol. Sad!
ReplyDeleteI don't think Lance thought of this even.
Deletethe thing about Lance Armstrong, eventhough he's been charged with doping offences, with the drugs used and all, it still is hard for someone to get to that stage to win over and over again. As much that it is against the rules & regulations of such competition and also as an athlete's morale, it is still not an easy thing to win a record of seven times of the Tour de France. all that mainly came from his hardwork and determination. the doping thing, does not make him to have super human power/strength. he is stil a respectable athlete in my opinion :)
ReplyDeleteback to this fool on the story, its just sad to see such person disrespecting such race. hope a rightful actions can be taken to prevent such incident in any races from now on.
The only rightful action is for him to:
Delete1. Stop doing this
2. stop talking down to others that came in after him (and these ppl ran the whole 42km)
3. Get a life.
I saw lotsa cheaters in PD Tri oso. These ppl got no pride 1. What r they even doing it for if they gonna cheat. So many fellas curi ayam during swim leg. They dive underwater, under the ropes n come out the other side. Effectively swimming half the distance only. These fellas all look so fat n out of shape but come out of the 1.5km swim with times like 20-25 minutes. Please la, look at their shape oso know they cannot possibly swim 1.5km in that kinda time.
ReplyDeleteEven during run leg. They take shortcuts. Really dont understand ppl like that.
Ian - i see it every year and in every tri-race (even Ironman). And yes, after looking back and thinking back, his image and him, this particular person, has always been in front of me in these races...now I know why!
DeleteIf we cannot accept people in this kinda sport using steroids/EPO for 'cheating' in performance enhancIng drug, why cant we accept this kinda cheat...
ReplyDeleteTo be honest, i'm quite new in this running field. I thought cheating towards finish line is just a hoax story... But this kinda thing story will hurt the newcomers feeling...
As we speak, another runner cheated in the Chicken Run. What she did was starting with the men, so she has a 3 to 4 minutes lead over other women...imagine if you are malaysia top lady runner and suddenly you see someone faster infront of you...haha
DeleteArgkk!!..Now I know what's gonna steal my mind's focus in SCKLM and PD-Tri these coming weeks =(
ReplyDeleteThe revelation your article brings marred my 'semangat' as both will be my inaugural experiences..
I've always had a certain level of respect for runners/Triathletes who are on the heavier side because I know they have to double the effort to finish a race compared to slimmer runners..but now..haiyaaa..
Tak best la camni.
-syikin-
Syikin - don't let all these effect you. Race your own race and with experience, you will (like me) take many things with pinches of salt.
DeleteI've always have respect for those on the bigger end as I was like that too. But yes, what happened here has also make me doubt some of the "faster" bigger people...
Were they running in the recent Kenny Rogers Roasters Run? Many cheaters there, I bet they're from a running club. One of them (a rude indian woman) pointed her middle finger to me when she was running crossed by me last year, I still remember this incident (and her face) vividly == Wondering what's the point they doing these immoral acts...
ReplyDeleteI am not sure if the ppl I noted here did. But the damage has been done to many races.
DeleteDon't worry about the Indian lady, rude ppl will be rude people. Just smile when they do it...it confuses them.
Haha, that Sir, is a good one. *Smile*
Deletecrap, i know this guy.. even chat with him few times in FB..
ReplyDeleteSad, isn't it?
Delete